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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

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Moved, 5 November 2004, from SS to Schutzstaffel, see discussion.
Not moved, 7 September 2005, from Schutzstaffel to SS, see discussion.
Not moved, 5 June 2015, from Schutzstaffel to SS (Nazi Germany), see discussion.
No consensus, 28 March 2022, from Schutzstaffel to SS, see discussion.

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Unnatural page traffic?

This page got 8 million hits yesterday. That is unprecedented traffic, and there is no related news story that I could find. What's happening here? Postman McDude (talk) 17:00, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What the hell? That is insane. I haven't found anything in the news either. Carlstak (talk) 18:52, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe these hits are from bots? Lorfragra (talk) 19:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Postman McDude Feels like some botting's at play here. PL.My (talk) 21:19, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's been coming up on different forums around conversation conversations about ICE's role in America politics. Johnsosd (talk) 23:31, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There were a articles in the Signpost about recent heavy bot/AI pageviews of Wikipedia: see Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-04-09/Opinion, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-04-09/Op-ed. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:30, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aha. Thanks Diannaa for the links. Smallbones' op-ed is a must-read. I have definitely noticed that Wikipedia pages have been loading more slowly, especially within the last month or so. Now I know why. Musk deploying AI to create the internal wiring for a police state and ICE working with Palantir and its Artificial Intelligence Platform is a nightmare. Carlstak (talk) 16:20, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever it is, it's super creepy that they would choose to use this particular article. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:41, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, absolutely so, and in character for the fascists, per the article: "...the SS was the foremost agency of security, mass surveillance, and state terrorism within Germany and German-occupied Europe." If the courts don't stop them, we should not be surprised to see non-immigrant US citizens who voice dissent or who are on Trump's enemies list to be declared "terrorists" and sent to concentration camps without due process. Carlstak (talk) 20:22, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]